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Rod Review


Flipping Week : Gary Loomis Shows his Edge for Flipping (continued)

Features: An interesting feature of this rod that bears discussing in this section is the fact the reel seat has no trigger. Remember when we brought up the question of whether the angling world was ready for Gary Loomis's new interpretation on a flipping stick? Reel seats are quietly one of the most controversial points of discussion on a fishing rod. Most people love the old Fuji ECS real seats, anglers either love or hate the Fuji ACS and are equally split on the split real seat design. The biggest argument against the Fuji ACS seat is the placement of its trigger.


The other feature of this rod certain to make anglers' heads spin is the fact the rods rotate around the blank.

Everyone's hand is different and even people with the same size hand do not agree on which finger should go in front of and behind the trigger while holding your rod combo. I know after a long day fishing, the ring finger on my right hand is often sore from pressing up against the reel seat's trigger, but like everyone else, I've grown accustomed to it because every single casting rod has this feature - until now.


The open ended hook keeper makes stowing of Texas rigged plastics easy.

What purpose does this trigger really serve? Maybe it helps you hold onto the rod when making a cast - but what if you make all your casts two handed? I do. Maybe it helps you control the rod from spinning in your hand while fighting a fish. Do you know why casting rods have the tendency to spin or twist in your hand while fighting a fish? It's because the guides are on top of the rod and the downward force of fighting a fish pulls the rod to one side or the other. Well, the Flip 787-1 and 786-1 are both spiral wrapped so this twisting force is eliminated.


The rod's handle is carbon fiber as well.

Oh the sensation of holding a casting rod with no trigger is very odd at first. There's no denying this, but if you're brave enough to try it, after about ten or fifteen minutes you'll be wondering why all your rods are not made in a similar fashion. It is so very comfortable to hold and fish these rods I find myself gravitating towards them each and every trip I have them on my deck.


Another look at this very unique feature. Matched with a Shimano Metanium, the Flip 787-1 is just so comfortable to fish.

The other features of this rod are the same as its previously reviewed sibling, the 705-1. Same grip, same guides, same hook keeper and same rod sleeve. The full rear carbon fiber grip on this rod is comfortable in dry or wet conditions and in hot or cold. The hook keeper is a simple, open ended keeper which is great for a stick where you're fishing mostly Texas rigged plastics. The rod sleeve included with this rod is better for long term storage than sliding in and out of a crowded rod locker but it's better than none at all. Lastly, the guides are the same, top end, Fuji K-Series, titanium framed guides with SiC inserts. No expense was spared in these high dollar flipping sticks.

Features Ratings for Edge Rods by NFC Flip 787-1

Grip (1-5)
Guides (1-5)
Reel Seat (1-5)
Hook Keeper (1-5)
Rod Sleeve (1-5)
Total
Possible
Rating (= Tot/Pos * 10)
5
5
5
5
3
23
25
9.2


Edge Rods goes old school with their blank treatment - sanded and that's it, no matte, gloss, or satin coat over the blank.

Design/Ergonomics: Going by the numbers, both the Flip 787-1 & 786-1 come in with weights that are percentage points above our flipping rod average. The balance point and torque numbers of the 787-1 are just about the same as the average while the 786-1 is slightly better. But also note the 786-1 is about a power softer than the average in our data of flipping sticks.

Lab Results for Edge Rods by NFC Flip 787-1

Model
Avg RoD (2-32 oz)
Taper
Measured Weight (oz)
Balance Point (inches)
Balancing Torque (ftlbs)
Edge Rods by NFC Flip 787-1
1.58
Mod-Fast
6.3
8.5
0.29
Edge Rods by NFC Flip 786-1
1.72
Mod-Fast
6.2
7.5
0.25
Flipping Rod Average
1.52
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6.0
8.5
0.27


In the end, the Flip 787-1 and its sibling the Flip 786-1 are solid entries into the flipping rod market.

Both rods' rear grips are short enough to get out of the way when pitching and flipping yet still long enough to use on a two handed cast should you decide to launch your bait instead. Colors and graphics on these sticks are very stealth.

Design & Ergonomics Ratings for Edge Rods by NFC Flip 787-1

Grip (1-5)
Colors / Graphics (1-5)
Balance (1-5)
Weight (1-5)
Total
Possible
Rating (= Tot/Pos * 10)
5
4
3
3
15
20
7.5


Edge Rods is making strides to make better fishing tools, not follow the status quo.

Application: The Flip 787-1 has a nice taper that's somewhere between fast and moderate that when coupled with its power and sensitivity make it a surprisingly versatile stick for other applications as well. Baits like Black Dog Bait's Lunker Punker, the MS Slammer, half ounce and up buzzbaits, even umbrella rigs if you're in a pinch all come to mind. Soft plastics and jigs are just a natural when pitching, flipping, punching, and Carolina rigging.

Bass Rod Application Ratings for Edge Rods by NFC Flip 787-1

Rip/Jerk (1-5)
Steady (1-5)
Lift & Drop (1-5)
Drag (1-5)
Twitch (1-5)
Total
Possible
Rating (= Tot/Pos * 10)
2
3
5
5
2
17
25
6.8


Zander fishing frogs with an Edge Rods flipping stick!

Warranty: Edge Rods offers a three year warranty to the original owner against manufacturer's defects in materials or workmanship. The warranty is not a replacement program and does not apply to accidental breakage and abuse. However, if you do break a rod accidentally, contact the manufacturer directly and they may work with you on a repair to get you back out on the water.

 

Ratings:

Edge Rods by NFC Flip 787-1 Ratings (?/10)

Construction/Quality Carefully built up in Woodland, Washington 9.47
Performance the NFC blanks continue to impress 9.2
Price This quality comes at a price 6
Features Some real outside of the box thinking went into this stick's features 9.2
Design (Ergonomics) Lines up really well with our flipping rod averages 7.5
Application Not just a flipping stick, the Flip 787-1 is suitable for a lot of big stick type applications 6.8

Total Score

8.03
Ratings Key: 1 = terrible : 2 = poor : 3 = lacking : 4 = sub par : 5 = mediocre : 6 = fair : 7 = good : 8 = great : 9 = excellent : 10 = unbelievable!
For More Details of the updated rating system visit our explanation here

 

Pluses and Minuses:

Plus

Minus
+ Really comfortable stick to fish - Edge Rods debuted at the top of the market. Cost to acquire this stick is high.
+ The triggerless design together with the spiral wrapped guides make a lot of sense  
+ Really good sensitivity and power  

  

Conclusion: Most people like the Fuji ECS reel seat. The Fuji ACS reel seat is polarizing, and the Fuji SKT seat is more liked than disliked. The popularity of lack thereof in any of these seats and others has a lot to do with the location of that trigger - but how many of you have thought about shaving that trigger off on a rod you otherwise really like? The Flip 787-1 from Edge Rods fishes well as a traditional flipping stick. Where this stick will have its challenges is in the minds et of consumers. Spiral wrapped rods are one thing, but a triggerless reel seat?

 


For out of the Tackle Box thinking and design, Edge Rods wins our Innovation Award with their Flip 787-1 and 786-1 flipping sticks!

 

It's a design combo you really have to fish, or at least handle in a store to appreciate. The triggerless seat makes the overall combo even easier to grasp giving you the sensation that the reel sits lower on the rod than it actually really does. This design is a great compliment to a spiral wrapped rod, but it takes an open mind to sample. I know I'm glad I had the opportunity to fish this stick and for its unique, out of the tackle box design, the Flip 787-1 wins our Innovation Award!!

 

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